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Episode 117: Spilling Tea on Casting Stones

Updated: Aug 13

The Zakar Twins are back to help us feel our love even when others are throwing hate.


About the Zakar Twins

Few things are as compelling as a good story, and the Zakar Twins have mastered the art of storytelling, Pray the Gay Away focuses on key issues in today’s society. The memoir chronicles Michael’s and Zach’s coming out to their mother who is a devout Christian who is also extremely devoted to the family’s Middle Eastern values and heritage. The book takes a comedic look at the brothers’ journey from awkward teenagers fighting against societal stereotypes in post 9/11 America, to living separate lives while recognizing sexual and emotional feelings for other boys, to rejoining their relationship when they come out to each other and to finally facing the future together in a world where gay is still a bad word and coming out to their mom shattered and reformed their family and religious values.

The Zakar Twins have made several appearances and have been interviewed in several publications as they promote their advocacy for LGBT rights, which they believe start with the individual and the individual’s journey. Each member of the LGBT community contributes in their own unique way facilitating the cause to reach its goal of open-mindedness and equality. They have appeared in almost every gay magazine in North America since 2015, including OUT Magazine, Instinct, the Gay Letter. They have appeared on Comedy Central and interviewed by other independent stations on their unique story in the hopes of normalizing LGBT POC.


Pray the Gay Away has been self-published by Michael and Zach and is selling on Amazon (#1 LGBT release its first day) and online on Barnes & Noble as the brothers start their national book tour.


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This week we pray with Kevin Garcia, a digital pastor, creative mystic, public theologian and intuitive soul coach based in Atlanta, GA. After coming out in the fall of 2015 as a queer Christian, Kevin has reached thousands of individuals across the globe with messages of God’s unending love for all people. regardless of who they are, what they profess, or what they actually believe. Kevin’s the author of Bad Theology Kills: undoing toxic beliefs and reclaiming your spiritual authority, published January 2020. Kevin’s work also appears in several anthologies by queer people of faith. Find out more about Kevin here:

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